faustf Posted May 21, 2018 Share Posted May 21, 2018 Hi guys i read a help (this time :)) and in file copy i see exist a flag FC_CREATEPATH (8) = Create destination directory structure if it doesn't exist (See Remarks). but in my windows xp happen this , copy a folder source and destination but without blank folder and folder full of file not create structure but copy only file some one can help me ?? this is a script expandcollapse popup#include <File.au3> #include <Date.au3> _FileCopyLOG("C:\Documents and Settings\Admin\Desktop\ba", "C:\Documents and Settings\Admin\Desktop\ma", "C:\Documents and Settings\Admin\Desktop\back.txt", "", "", $FC_CREATEPATH ) Func _FileCopyLOG($Path, $DestPath, $LogPath, $LogOKO, $FlagFTA = 0, $Flag = 1) If $FlagFTA = Default Then $FlagFTA = 0 If $Flag = Default Then $Flag = 1 If $LogOKO = Default Then $LogOKO = 0 Local $aFileList = _FileListToArray($Path, "*.*", $FlagFTA) _ArrayDisplay($aFileList) If @error = 1 Then ;MsgBox($MB_SYSTEMMODAL, "", "Path was invalid.") Return 1 ElseIf @error = 4 Then ; MsgBox($MB_SYSTEMMODAL, "", "No file(s) were found.") Return 4 ElseIf @error = 2 Then ; MsgBox($MB_SYSTEMMODAL, "", "Invalid Filter") Return 2 ElseIf @error = 3 Then ; MsgBox($MB_SYSTEMMODAL, "", "Invalid Flag") Return 3 Else Local $ReturnCopy For $i = 1 To UBound($aFileList) - 1 $ReturnCopy = FileCopy($Path & "\" & $aFileList[$i], $DestPath, $Flag) ; $ReturnCopy = DirCopy($Path & "\" & $aFileList[$i], $DestPath, $Flag) If $LogPath <> "" Then Local $sTime = _DateTimeFormat(_NowCalc(), 0) Local $rep1 = StringReplace($sTime, " ", "-") Local $rep2 = StringReplace($rep1, "/", "-") Local $rep3 = StringReplace($rep2, ":", "-") $rep3 = StringReplace($rep2, ":", "-") Local $sLLogPath = StringTrimRight($LogPath, 4) If $ReturnCopy = 1 And $LogOKO = 0 Then _True_write_File($sLLogPath & "_" & $rep3 & ".log", $Path & "\" & $aFileList[$i] & " -----------> COPIATO") ElseIf $ReturnCopy = 0 And $LogOKO = 1 Then _True_write_File($LogPath, $Path & "\" & $aFileList[$i] & " -----------> NON COPIATO") ElseIf $ReturnCopy = 0 And $LogOKO = 0 Then _True_write_File($LogPath, $Path & "\" & $aFileList[$i] & " -----------> NON COPIATO") EndIf EndIf Next Return 5 EndIf EndFunc ;==>_FileCopyLOG ; #INDEX# ======================================================================== ; Title .........: GUI_Configure.au3 ; AutoIt Version : 3.3.14.2++ ; Language ......: Italian ; Description ...: A collection of Function for Logic of Gest ; Author ........: Faustf ; What do you do.: Write data in File ; Version .......: 0.0.1 BETA - Work in progress 15/03/2016 ; Syntax ........: ; ================================================================================ Func _True_write_File($sFilePath, $sDataWrite, $iReturn = 0) If $iReturn = Default Then $iReturn = 0 $File = FileOpen($sFilePath, 1) If $iReturn = 0 Then FileWrite($File, $sDataWrite & @CRLF) Else FileWrite($File, $sDataWrite) EndIf FileClose($File) EndFunc ;==>_True_write_File Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrewManNH Posted May 21, 2018 Share Posted May 21, 2018 I'm not sure what your actual problem is, but this will never work the way you're expecting. Local $aFileList = _FileListToArray($Path, "*.*", $FlagFTA) _ArrayDisplay($aFileList) If @error = 1 Then Your use of _ArrayDisplay resets the @error so the entire IF structure after it will never work the way you want it to. If I posted any code, assume that code was written using the latest release version unless stated otherwise. Also, if it doesn't work on XP I can't help with that because I don't have access to XP, and I'm not going to.Give a programmer the correct code and he can do his work for a day. Teach a programmer to debug and he can do his work for a lifetime - by Chirag GudeHow to ask questions the smart way! I hereby grant any person the right to use any code I post, that I am the original author of, on the autoitscript.com forums, unless I've specifically stated otherwise in the code or the thread post. If you do use my code all I ask, as a courtesy, is to make note of where you got it from. Back up and restore Windows user files _Array.au3 - Modified array functions that include support for 2D arrays. - ColorChooser - An add-on for SciTE that pops up a color dialog so you can select and paste a color code into a script. - Customizable Splashscreen GUI w/Progress Bar - Create a custom "splash screen" GUI with a progress bar and custom label. - _FileGetProperty - Retrieve the properties of a file - SciTE Toolbar - A toolbar demo for use with the SciTE editor - GUIRegisterMsg demo - Demo script to show how to use the Windows messages to interact with controls and your GUI. - Latin Square password generator Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faustf Posted May 21, 2018 Author Share Posted May 21, 2018 (edited) Thankz for answer , i remove ; arraydisplay , but have thesame effect o_O probably the problem somewhere else Edited May 21, 2018 by faustf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faustf Posted May 21, 2018 Author Share Posted May 21, 2018 i try to semplify a script with this 3 row and have the same problem not create path in destination but copy all file (included file located in subfolder) in main folder destination o_O #include <File.au3> #include <Date.au3> ;Local $aFileList = _FileListToArray("C:\Users\SviluppoGest\Desktop\ba", "*.*", 0) Local $aFileList = _FileListToArray("C:\Users\SviluppoGest\Desktop\ba") For $i =0 To UBound ($aFileList) -1 FileCopy("C:\Users\SviluppoGest\Desktop\ba\"&$aFileList[$i], "C:\Users\SviluppoGest\Desktop\ma", $FC_OVERWRITE + $FC_CREATEPATH ) Next i think at this point is bug of autoit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrewManNH Posted May 21, 2018 Share Posted May 21, 2018 What main folder is it copying the files to, the ma folder? Because if so, that's where you told it to copy them to. There's no path information in the array, so where do you expect them to go to? If I posted any code, assume that code was written using the latest release version unless stated otherwise. Also, if it doesn't work on XP I can't help with that because I don't have access to XP, and I'm not going to.Give a programmer the correct code and he can do his work for a day. Teach a programmer to debug and he can do his work for a lifetime - by Chirag GudeHow to ask questions the smart way! I hereby grant any person the right to use any code I post, that I am the original author of, on the autoitscript.com forums, unless I've specifically stated otherwise in the code or the thread post. If you do use my code all I ask, as a courtesy, is to make note of where you got it from. Back up and restore Windows user files _Array.au3 - Modified array functions that include support for 2D arrays. - ColorChooser - An add-on for SciTE that pops up a color dialog so you can select and paste a color code into a script. - Customizable Splashscreen GUI w/Progress Bar - Create a custom "splash screen" GUI with a progress bar and custom label. - _FileGetProperty - Retrieve the properties of a file - SciTE Toolbar - A toolbar demo for use with the SciTE editor - GUIRegisterMsg demo - Demo script to show how to use the Windows messages to interact with controls and your GUI. - Latin Square password generator Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Melba23 Posted May 21, 2018 Moderators Share Posted May 21, 2018 faustf, Quote i think at this point is bug of faustf - as this works perfectly for me: #include <File.au3> Local $aFileList = _FileListToArray("M:\Program\Au3 Scripts\faustf", "*", $FLTA_FILES, True) For $i = 0 To UBound($aFileList) - 1 FileCopy($aFileList[$i], "M:\Program\Au3 Scripts\test", $FC_OVERWRITE + $FC_CREATEPATH) Next M23 coffeeturtle 1 Any of my own code posted anywhere on the forum is available for use by others without any restriction of any kind Open spoiler to see my UDFs: Spoiler ArrayMultiColSort ---- Sort arrays on multiple columnsChooseFileFolder ---- Single and multiple selections from specified path treeview listingDate_Time_Convert -- Easily convert date/time formats, including the language usedExtMsgBox --------- A highly customisable replacement for MsgBoxGUIExtender -------- Extend and retract multiple sections within a GUIGUIFrame ---------- Subdivide GUIs into many adjustable framesGUIListViewEx ------- Insert, delete, move, drag, sort, edit and colour ListView itemsGUITreeViewEx ------ Check/clear parent and child checkboxes in a TreeViewMarquee ----------- Scrolling tickertape GUIsNoFocusLines ------- Remove the dotted focus lines from buttons, sliders, radios and checkboxesNotify ------------- Small notifications on the edge of the displayScrollbars ----------Automatically sized scrollbars with a single commandStringSize ---------- Automatically size controls to fit textToast -------------- Small GUIs which pop out of the notification area Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faustf Posted May 21, 2018 Author Share Posted May 21, 2018 @Melba23 but create also folder in destination folder ??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faustf Posted May 21, 2018 Author Share Posted May 21, 2018 @BrewManNH i aspect C:\Users\SviluppoGest\Desktop\ba\"&$aFileList[$i] put here "C:\Users\SviluppoGest\Desktop\ma" and recreate thesame structure inside $FC_OVERWRITE + $FC_CREATEPATH ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Melba23 Posted May 21, 2018 Moderators Share Posted May 21, 2018 (edited) faustf, FileCopy does what it says - moves files. If you want to create subfolders as well then you are in a whole new game - look at DirCopy in the Help file. M23 P.S. I seem to recall the point of you not reading the Help file before posting being discussed recently? Please do take the advice to heart. Edited May 21, 2018 by Melba23 Any of my own code posted anywhere on the forum is available for use by others without any restriction of any kind Open spoiler to see my UDFs: Spoiler ArrayMultiColSort ---- Sort arrays on multiple columnsChooseFileFolder ---- Single and multiple selections from specified path treeview listingDate_Time_Convert -- Easily convert date/time formats, including the language usedExtMsgBox --------- A highly customisable replacement for MsgBoxGUIExtender -------- Extend and retract multiple sections within a GUIGUIFrame ---------- Subdivide GUIs into many adjustable framesGUIListViewEx ------- Insert, delete, move, drag, sort, edit and colour ListView itemsGUITreeViewEx ------ Check/clear parent and child checkboxes in a TreeViewMarquee ----------- Scrolling tickertape GUIsNoFocusLines ------- Remove the dotted focus lines from buttons, sliders, radios and checkboxesNotify ------------- Small notifications on the edge of the displayScrollbars ----------Automatically sized scrollbars with a single commandStringSize ---------- Automatically size controls to fit textToast -------------- Small GUIs which pop out of the notification area Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrewManNH Posted May 21, 2018 Share Posted May 21, 2018 3 minutes ago, faustf said: recreate thesame structure inside There's NO structure in that that can be created, what folder are you expecting it to create that it isn't? If I posted any code, assume that code was written using the latest release version unless stated otherwise. Also, if it doesn't work on XP I can't help with that because I don't have access to XP, and I'm not going to.Give a programmer the correct code and he can do his work for a day. Teach a programmer to debug and he can do his work for a lifetime - by Chirag GudeHow to ask questions the smart way! I hereby grant any person the right to use any code I post, that I am the original author of, on the autoitscript.com forums, unless I've specifically stated otherwise in the code or the thread post. If you do use my code all I ask, as a courtesy, is to make note of where you got it from. Back up and restore Windows user files _Array.au3 - Modified array functions that include support for 2D arrays. - ColorChooser - An add-on for SciTE that pops up a color dialog so you can select and paste a color code into a script. - Customizable Splashscreen GUI w/Progress Bar - Create a custom "splash screen" GUI with a progress bar and custom label. - _FileGetProperty - Retrieve the properties of a file - SciTE Toolbar - A toolbar demo for use with the SciTE editor - GUIRegisterMsg demo - Demo script to show how to use the Windows messages to interact with controls and your GUI. - Latin Square password generator Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faustf Posted May 21, 2018 Author Share Posted May 21, 2018 @Melba23 i take a care the advice to heart., and i read file help therfore if in help write: $FC_CREATEPATH (8) = Create destination directory structure if it doesn't exist (See Remarks). i think work correct , but i take note the help file have some error because the flag $FC_CREATEPATH(8) , not Create destination directory structure Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Melba23 Posted May 21, 2018 Moderators Share Posted May 21, 2018 faustf, That phrase means that the command will create the necessary directory structure in the copied file path if it does not already exist - try this (you may have to adjust the paths): #include <File.au3> FileCopy(@ScriptFullPath, @ScriptDir & "\test\", $FC_CREATEPATH) ; make sure new folder does not already exist!! You will get a copy of the script file in the new folder - note the trailing "\" so AutoIt knows you want to create a folder. It does not mean that it creates all the subsidiary files within the structure - for that you need DirCopy as I have already told you. M23 Any of my own code posted anywhere on the forum is available for use by others without any restriction of any kind Open spoiler to see my UDFs: Spoiler ArrayMultiColSort ---- Sort arrays on multiple columnsChooseFileFolder ---- Single and multiple selections from specified path treeview listingDate_Time_Convert -- Easily convert date/time formats, including the language usedExtMsgBox --------- A highly customisable replacement for MsgBoxGUIExtender -------- Extend and retract multiple sections within a GUIGUIFrame ---------- Subdivide GUIs into many adjustable framesGUIListViewEx ------- Insert, delete, move, drag, sort, edit and colour ListView itemsGUITreeViewEx ------ Check/clear parent and child checkboxes in a TreeViewMarquee ----------- Scrolling tickertape GUIsNoFocusLines ------- Remove the dotted focus lines from buttons, sliders, radios and checkboxesNotify ------------- Small notifications on the edge of the displayScrollbars ----------Automatically sized scrollbars with a single commandStringSize ---------- Automatically size controls to fit textToast -------------- Small GUIs which pop out of the notification area Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faustf Posted May 21, 2018 Author Share Posted May 21, 2018 so so so i think file copy and dir copy , must have, rewrite , probably when born a concept is correct but now is bad very bad , obviously if you must copy one simple file and go you can use it , but if you must rely on it is very bad!!!!!!! , i think instead change _arraydisplay and create another instruction _arraydisplay debug (or similar now not remember perfectly name )I would have improved , or add , a new powerfull instruction , becuase if you immagine in robocopy you can do in one simple instruction copy structure file and logging it robocopy.exe ' & $from & ' ' & $to & ' ' & $options & ' ' & $logpath, and in autoit you must go crazy with filecopy and dircopy and _FileListToArray and after for write log restart the hell open file write it close it , programming speed is important today , therfore Unfortunately i use a simply cmd command . thankz again for help P.S: i insert a \ in script but have the same effect Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Melba23 Posted May 21, 2018 Moderators Share Posted May 21, 2018 faustf, Quote in autoit you must go crazy with filecopy and dircopy Not at all! DirCopy will automatically copy the directory structure and the files within it - no need to use FileCopy or FileReadToArray or anything else - just the one simple command. How about trying it before complaining? M23 coffeeturtle 1 Any of my own code posted anywhere on the forum is available for use by others without any restriction of any kind Open spoiler to see my UDFs: Spoiler ArrayMultiColSort ---- Sort arrays on multiple columnsChooseFileFolder ---- Single and multiple selections from specified path treeview listingDate_Time_Convert -- Easily convert date/time formats, including the language usedExtMsgBox --------- A highly customisable replacement for MsgBoxGUIExtender -------- Extend and retract multiple sections within a GUIGUIFrame ---------- Subdivide GUIs into many adjustable framesGUIListViewEx ------- Insert, delete, move, drag, sort, edit and colour ListView itemsGUITreeViewEx ------ Check/clear parent and child checkboxes in a TreeViewMarquee ----------- Scrolling tickertape GUIsNoFocusLines ------- Remove the dotted focus lines from buttons, sliders, radios and checkboxesNotify ------------- Small notifications on the edge of the displayScrollbars ----------Automatically sized scrollbars with a single commandStringSize ---------- Automatically size controls to fit textToast -------------- Small GUIs which pop out of the notification area Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faustf Posted May 21, 2018 Author Share Posted May 21, 2018 (edited) therfore if i use this script must work ??? #include <File.au3> #include <Date.au3> ;Local $aFileList = _FileListToArray("C:\Users\SviluppoGest\Desktop\ba", "*.*", 0) Local $aFileList = _FileListToArray("C:\Users\SviluppoGest\Desktop\ba") ;For $i =0 To UBound ($aFileList) -1 ;FileCopy("C:\Users\SviluppoGest\Desktop\ba\"&$aFileList[$i], "C:\Users\SviluppoGest\Desktop\ma\", $FC_OVERWRITE + $FC_CREATEPATH ) DirCopy ("C:\Users\SviluppoGest\Desktop\ba\", "C:\Users\SviluppoGest\Desktop\ma", $FC_OVERWRITE ) ;Next Edited May 21, 2018 by faustf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faustf Posted May 21, 2018 Author Share Posted May 21, 2018 ok Dircopy is good Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faustf Posted May 21, 2018 Author Share Posted May 21, 2018 But for my case is not so good because i want also a log file i prefer do it with robocopy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Melba23 Posted May 21, 2018 Moderators Share Posted May 21, 2018 faustf, Quote ok Dircopy is good Delighted to hear it. Quote i want also a log file You could run _FileListToArrayRec on the 2 structures and see if they match - then use one of the arrays to write to the log file using _FileWriteFromArray (but take care not to overwrite the earlier entries). M23 Earthshine and coffeeturtle 2 Any of my own code posted anywhere on the forum is available for use by others without any restriction of any kind Open spoiler to see my UDFs: Spoiler ArrayMultiColSort ---- Sort arrays on multiple columnsChooseFileFolder ---- Single and multiple selections from specified path treeview listingDate_Time_Convert -- Easily convert date/time formats, including the language usedExtMsgBox --------- A highly customisable replacement for MsgBoxGUIExtender -------- Extend and retract multiple sections within a GUIGUIFrame ---------- Subdivide GUIs into many adjustable framesGUIListViewEx ------- Insert, delete, move, drag, sort, edit and colour ListView itemsGUITreeViewEx ------ Check/clear parent and child checkboxes in a TreeViewMarquee ----------- Scrolling tickertape GUIsNoFocusLines ------- Remove the dotted focus lines from buttons, sliders, radios and checkboxesNotify ------------- Small notifications on the edge of the displayScrollbars ----------Automatically sized scrollbars with a single commandStringSize ---------- Automatically size controls to fit textToast -------------- Small GUIs which pop out of the notification area Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faustf Posted May 21, 2018 Author Share Posted May 21, 2018 at end i preferred work with Robocopy , because create a perfect style log , and is very simply this is a code i created , is not perfect but perfectible , thankz at all expandcollapse popup#include <File.au3> #include <Date.au3> ;_FileCopyLOG("C:\Users\SviluppoGest\Desktop\ba", "C:\Users\SviluppoGest\Desktop\ma", "C:\Users\SviluppoGest\Desktop\back.txt", "", "",1,1) ; #FUNCTION# ==================================================================================================================== ; Name ..........: _FileCopyLOG ; Description ...: File copy and log with Robocopy ; Syntax ........: _FileCopyLOG($Path, $DestPath, $LogPath, $FlagFTA = 0, $Flag = 0, $cmdflag = 0, $visible = 0) ; Parameters ....: $Path - dirctory you wish copy ; $DestPath - base directory where output goes ; $LogPath - log path if you want log , if you dont want simply "" ; $FlagFTA - flag option of _FileListToArray (see help for details) ; $Flag - flag option Robocopy (see help robocopy for details,cmd --> robocopy /? ) ; $cmdflag - flag option for command Run (see help for Eun cmmand, usally c or k) ; $visible - flag for see cmd (active or disactive @SW_HIDE) ; Return values .: ; Author ........: Faustf ; Modified ......: ; Remarks .......: ; Related .......: ; Link ..........: ; Example .......: decomment 5° line and insert your path ; =============================================================================================================================== Func _FileCopyLOG($Path, $DestPath, $LogPath, $FlagFTA = 0, $Flag = 0, $cmdflag = 0, $visible = 0) If $FlagFTA = Default Then $FlagFTA = 0 If $Flag = 0 Then $Flag = "/E" If $cmdflag = 0 Then $cmdflag = "c" Else $cmdflag = "k" EndIf If $visible = 0 Then $visible = "" Else $visible = @SW_HIDE EndIf Local $aFileList = _FileListToArray($Path, "*.*", $FlagFTA) ;_ArrayDisplay($aFileList) If @error = 1 Then ;MsgBox($MB_SYSTEMMODAL, "", "Path was invalid.") Return 1 ElseIf @error = 4 Then ; MsgBox($MB_SYSTEMMODAL, "", "No file(s) were found.") Return 4 ElseIf @error = 2 Then ; MsgBox($MB_SYSTEMMODAL, "", "Invalid Filter") Return 2 ElseIf @error = 3 Then ; MsgBox($MB_SYSTEMMODAL, "", "Invalid Flag") Return 3 Else If @OSVersion = "WIN_XP" Then Local $sLRoboFileDir = FileGetShortName(@ProgramFilesDir & '\Windows Resource Kits\Tools\robocopy.exe ') Local $sLFromShort = FileGetShortName($Path) Local $sLToShort = FileGetShortName($DestPath) Local $sLOptShort = FileGetShortName($Flag) Local $sLOgShort = FileGetShortName($LogPath) If FileExists($sLRoboFileDir) Then If $LogPath = "" Then Run(@ComSpec & ' /k ' & $sLRoboFileDir & ' ' & $sLFromShort & ' ' & $sLToShort & ' ' & $sLOptShort ,'', $visible)) Else Run(@ComSpec & ' /k ' & $sLRoboFileDir & ' ' & $sLFromShort & ' ' & $sLToShort & ' ' & $sLOptShort & ' /LOG:' & $sLOgShort,'', $visible) EndIf Else MsgBox(48, 'Info', 'You must install robocopy') ShellExecute("https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=17657") EndIf Else If FileExists(@SystemDir & '\robocopy.exe') Then If $LogPath = "" Then Run(@ComSpec & ' /'&$cmdflag&' ' & @SystemDir & '\robocopy.exe ' & $Path & ' ' & $DestPath & ' ' & $Flag,'', $visible) Else Run(@ComSpec & ' /'&$cmdflag&' ' & @SystemDir & '\robocopy.exe ' & $Path & ' ' & $DestPath & ' ' & $Flag & ' /LOG:' & $LogPath, '', $visible) EndIf Else MsgBox(48, 'Info', 'You must install robocopy') ShellExecute("https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=17657") EndIf EndIf Return 5 EndIf EndFunc ;==>_FileCopyLOG ; #INDEX# ======================================================================== ; Title .........: GUI_Configure.au3 ; AutoIt Version : 3.3.14.2++ ; Language ......: Italian ; Description ...: A collection of Function for Logic of Gest ; Author ........: Faustf ; What do you do.: Write data in File ; Version .......: 0.0.1 BETA - Work in progress 15/03/2016 ; Syntax ........: ; ================================================================================ Func _True_write_File($sFilePath, $sDataWrite, $iReturn = 0) If $iReturn = Default Then $iReturn = 0 $File = FileOpen($sFilePath, 1) If $iReturn = 0 Then FileWrite($File, $sDataWrite & @CRLF) Else FileWrite($File, $sDataWrite) EndIf FileClose($File) EndFunc ;==>_True_write_File Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators JLogan3o13 Posted May 21, 2018 Moderators Share Posted May 21, 2018 7 hours ago, faustf said: so so so i think file copy and dir copy , must have, rewrite , probably when born a concept is correct but now is bad very bad , obviously if you must copy one simple file and go you can use it , but if you must rely on it is very bad!!!!!!! So, the functions should be re-written because you (and only you) are not intelligent enough to understand them? Really getting tired of you complaining about and blaming the language because you're not able to grasp the simplest of concepts... "Profanity is the last vestige of the feeble mind. For the man who cannot express himself forcibly through intellect must do so through shock and awe" - Spencer W. Kimball How to get your question answered on this forum! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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