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I am trying t make my program run other programs from a network drive. this works fine if the server does not require authentication. but i work in a school...and that is not allowed.

i dont know if it is because the computer is not on the domain and i am trying to log on as an domain user

I have the top of my script set up like this

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Dim $netuser = IniRead($settings, "Program_Use_Only", "NetAdmin", "")

Dim $netpass = _StringEncrypt(0, IniRead($settings, "Program_Use_Only", "NetPass", ""), "Prepsys", 2)

Dim $netdom = IniRead($settings, "Program_Use_Only", "NetDom", "")

If IniRead($settings, "Program_Use_Only", "NetLogon", "0") = 1 Then RunAsSet ($netuser, $netdom, $netpass, 2)

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i get this error

RunWait($cleansns_exe)

error: unable to execute the external program

if i got to the network location and put in my credentials....the script runs fine because it does not need to authenticate

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When running a program from a network share you need to specify a working directory.

Try this:

RunWait($cleansns_exe, @TempDir)

will that mess things up when $cleansns_exe isn't on a network drive?

and does that automatically delete?

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what does the tempdrive actually do....i am runing a scipt that uses other files outside of the exe (its used to autoinstall programs)

@TempDir = path to the temporary files folder

This just gives the script a place to store the files while it is running them. It won't do anything to your script other than make it work.

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@TempDir = path to the temporary files folder

This just gives the script a place to store the files while it is running them. It won't do anything to your script other than make it work.

thanks for the help....hopefully it work when i am at work on the network...it at least works like it did before

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It didn't work, i get the same error basically

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RunWait($cleansns_exe, @TempDir)

error: unable to execute the external program

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I don't see any script code where the credentials are being used, are you using RunAsSet? RunAsSet starts child processes in a new session that doesn't inherit or initially have any network connectivity.

Thread that discusses this here, discussion is re: a NetWare environment, but the concepts and methods are the same for Windows...

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i am running exes on from remote share (the exes are autoit autoinstalls i made that require other the programs install files to be used)

ex. ---->>

my programs are in

\\macross\Prepsys ...to view that folder i must enter a valid username and password

in \\macross\PrepSys i have

\\macross\PrepSys\Office, that contains my autoinstall script(compiled exe) and the office install files.

--------->>

If i manually log into \\macross\Prepsys then run my program, it works fine (using windows run, i get asked to enter a password to view contents of \\macross\PrepSys)

but if i dont log in first...i get the above error

If a network drive is being used a ini key(NetLogon) gets set to 1.(another program i made sets the settings)

in the script that performs the actions, i use RunAsSet

;Set privlages if needed
If IniRead($settings, "Program_Use_Only", "NetLogon", "0") = 1 Then RunAsSet($netuser, $netdom, $netpass, 2)

I don't see any script code where the credentials are being used, are you using RunAsSet? RunAsSet starts child processes in a new session that doesn't inherit or initially have any network connectivity.

Thread that discusses this here, discussion is re: a NetWare environment, but the concepts and methods are the same for Windows...

;-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
;-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
; AutoIt Version: 3.1.1.98(beta)
; Author:Andrew Calcutt     Date:08/11/2005
; Script Function: Auto-Sysprep Utility
;-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
#include <PrepSysFunc.au3>;Include PrepSys Functions
#include <GuiConstants.au3>
#include <string.au3>
;-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Dim $settings = @HomeDrive & "\settings.ini"
If FileExists($settings) = 0 Then
    FileCopy(StringTrimRight(@ScriptDir, 8) & "\settings.ini", $settings, 0)
    FileSetAttrib($settings, "-R")
EndIf
If IniRead($settings, "Script_Settings", "Working_Dir", "") = "" Then IniWrite($settings, "Script_Settings", "Working_Dir", StringTrimRight(@ScriptDir, 8))
;-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
;-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Dim $shutdown = "RUN"
Dim $workingdir = IniRead($settings, "Script_Settings", "Working_Dir", "")
Dim $progressref = IniRead($settings, "Program_Use_Only", "_Progress_Ref", "")
Dim $progressref2 = 0
Dim $run_todo = IniRead($settings, "Script_Settings", "Delete_Start_User", "0") + IniRead($settings, "Script_Settings", "Install_McAfee", "0") + IniRead($settings, "Script_Settings", "Install_Sophos", "0") + IniRead($settings, "Script_Settings", "Install_VPN", "0") + IniRead($settings, "Script_Settings", "Install_Office", "0") + IniRead($settings, "Script_Settings", "Set_Visual_Settings", "0") + IniRead($settings, "Script_Settings", "Copy_Profile", "0") + IniRead($settings, "Script_Settings", "Wait_Updates", "0") + IniRead($settings, "Script_Settings", "Clean_SMS", "0") + IniRead($settings, "Script_Settings", "Remove_McAfee_GUID", "0") + IniRead($settings, "Script_Settings", "Defrag", "0")
Dim $logonuser1 = IniRead($settings, "Script_Settings", "Admin_Username", "")
Dim $logonpass1 = _StringEncrypt(0, IniRead($settings, "Script_Settings", "Admin_Password", ""), "Prepsys", 2)
Dim $logonuser2 = IniRead($settings, "Script_Settings", "Sysprep_Username", "")
Dim $logonpass2 = _StringEncrypt(0, IniRead($settings, "Script_Settings", "Sysprep_Password", ""), "Prepsys", 2)
Dim $logonuser = $logonuser1
Dim $logonpass = $logonpass1
Dim $scriptdir = @ScriptDir & "\" & @ScriptName

Dim $mcafee_exe = IniRead($settings, "Program_Use_Only", "mcafee_exe", $workingdir & "\McAfee\AutoInstall_McAfee.exe")
Dim $mcafee_patch_exe = IniRead($settings, "Program_Use_Only", "mcafee_patch_exe", $workingdir & "\McAfee\Patch\AutoInstall_McAfee_Patch.exe")
Dim $sophos_exe = IniRead($settings, "Program_Use_Only", "sophos_exe", $workingdir & "\Sophos\AutoInstall_Sophos.exe")
Dim $vpn_exe = IniRead($settings, "Program_Use_Only", "vpn_exe", $workingdir & "\VPN\AutoInstall_VPN.exe")
Dim $office_exe = IniRead($settings, "Program_Use_Only", "office_exe", $workingdir & "\OFFICE\AutoInstall_Office.exe")
Dim $datatel_exe = IniRead($settings, "Program_Use_Only", "datatel_exe", $workingdir & "\DATATEL\AutoInstall_Datatel.exe")
Dim $cleansms_exe = IniRead($settings, "Program_Use_Only", "cleansms_exe", $workingdir & "\CleanSMS\AutoRun_cleansms.exe")

Dim $netuser = IniRead($settings, "Program_Use_Only", "NetAdmin", "")
Dim $netpass = _StringEncrypt(0, IniRead($settings, "Program_Use_Only", "NetPass", ""), "Prepsys", 2)
Dim $netdom = IniRead($settings, "Program_Use_Only", "NetDom", "")

;-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
If StringLen($workingdir) <> 3 Then $workingdir = $workingdir & "\"
;-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
;Auto Logon
_Logon ("REMOVE")
;-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
;Set privlages if needed
If IniRead($settings, "Program_Use_Only", "NetLogon", "0") = 1 Then RunAsSet($netuser, $netdom, $netpass, 2)
;-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
GUICreate("PrepSys Progress", 200, 50, (@DesktopWidth - 200) , (0))

$action_progress = GUICtrlCreateProgress(10, 2, 180, 12)
$current_action = GUICtrlCreateLabel("Current Action", 13, 28, 315, 23)

GUISetState()
While 1
    $msg = GUIGetMsg()
    Select
        Case $msg = $GUI_EVENT_CLOSE
            ExitLoop
    EndSelect
    
;*** COPY USERNAME OF INITIAL XP USER(IF NOT DEFAULT ADMIN ACCOUNT) ***
    If IniRead($settings, "Script_Settings", "Delete_Start_User", "0") = 1 And IniRead($settings, "Program_Use_Only", "Deleted_Start_User", "0") = 0 Then
        If @UserName <> $logonuser1 Then
            GUICtrlSetData($current_action, "Deleting Initial User")
            IniWrite($settings, "Script_Settings", "Delete_User", @UserName)
            IniWrite($settings, "Program_Use_Only", "Delete_Start_User_Step1", "1")
            _Shutdown ("LOGOFF", "ADD", $logonuser1, $logonpass1, $scriptdir)
        Else
            IniWrite($settings, "Program_Use_Only", "Deleted_Start_User", "1")
        EndIf
    EndIf
    
    
;*** DELETE INITIAL USER ***
    If IniRead($settings, "Program_Use_Only", "Delete_Start_User_Step1", "0") = 1 And IniRead($settings, "Program_Use_Only", "Deleted_Start_User", "0") = 0 Then
        GUICtrlSetData($current_action, "Deleting Initial User")
        _Profile ("REMOVE", IniRead($settings, "Script_Settings", "Delete_User", ""))
        _User ("REMOVE", IniRead($settings, "Script_Settings", "Delete_User", ""), "", "")
        IniWrite($settings, "Program_Use_Only", "Deleted_Start_User", "1")
        _Progress_Ref ("ADD")
    EndIf
    
    _Progress_Ref ("SHOW")
    
;*** INSTALL MCAFEE ***
    If IniRead($settings, "Script_Settings", "Install_McAfee", "0") = 1 And IniRead($settings, "Program_Use_Only", "Installed_McAfee", "0") = 0 Then
        GUICtrlSetData($current_action, "Installing McAfee")
        RunWait($mcafee_exe, @TempDir@TempDir);Install McAfee
        RunWait($mcafee_patch_exe, @TempDir);Install McAfee Patch
        IniWrite($settings, "Program_Use_Only", "Installed_McAfee", "1")
        _Progress_Ref ("ADD")
    EndIf
    
    _Progress_Ref ("SHOW")
    
;Install Sophos Remote Update
    If IniRead($settings, "Script_Settings", "Install_Sophos", "0") = 1 And IniRead($settings, "Program_Use_Only", "Installed_Sophos", "0") = 0 Then
        GUICtrlSetData($current_action, "Installing Sophos")
        RunWait($sophos_exe, @TempDir);Install Sophos
        IniWrite($settings, "Program_Use_Only", "Installed_Sophos", "1")
        _Progress_Ref ("ADD")
    EndIf
    
    _Progress_Ref ("SHOW")
    
;*** INSTALL VPN SOFTWARE ***
    If IniRead($settings, "Script_Settings", "Install_VPN", "0") = 1 And IniRead($settings, "Program_Use_Only", "Installed_VPN", "0") = 0 Then
        GUICtrlSetData($current_action, "Installing VPN")
        RunWait($vpn_exe, @TempDir);Install VPN
        IniWrite($settings, "Program_Use_Only", "Installed_VPN", "1")
        _Progress_Ref ("ADD")
        $shutdown = "REBOOT"
    EndIf
    
    _Progress_Ref ("SHOW")
    
;*** INSTALL OFFICE ***
    If IniRead($settings, "Script_Settings", "Install_Office", "0") = 1 And IniRead($settings, "Program_Use_Only", "Installed_Office", "0") = 0 Then
        GUICtrlSetData($current_action, "Installing Office")
        RunWait($office_exe, @TempDir);Install Office
        IniWrite($settings, "Program_Use_Only", "Installed_Office", "1")
        If IniRead($settings, "OFFICE", "Add_Office_Toolbar", "0") = 1 And IniRead($settings, "Program_Use_Only", "Added_Office_Toolbar", "0") = 0 Then
            _TaskToolbar ($toolbardir)
            IniWrite($settings, "Program_Use_Only", "Added_Office_Toolbar", "1")
        EndIf
        _Progress_Ref ("ADD")
        $shutdown = "REBOOT"
    EndIf
    
    _Progress_Ref ("SHOW")
    
;*** INSTALL DATATEL ***
    If IniRead($settings, "Script_Settings", "Install_Datatel", "0") = 1 And IniRead($settings, "Program_Use_Only", "Installed_Datatel", "0") = 0 Then
        GUICtrlSetData($current_action, "Installing Datatel")
        RunWait($datatel_exe, @TempDir);Install Datatel
        IniWrite($settings, "Program_Use_Only", "Installed_Datatel", "1")
        _Progress_Ref ("ADD")
    EndIf
    
    _Progress_Ref ("SHOW")
    
;
    If $shutdown <> "" Then _Shutdown ($shutdown, "ADD", $logonuser1, $logonpass1, $scriptdir)
    
;Set Start Menu
    If IniRead($settings, "Script_Settings", "Set_Start_Menu", "0") = 1 And IniRead($settings, "Program_Use_Only", "Set_Start_Menu", "0") = 0 Then
        GUICtrlSetData($current_action, "Setting Start Menu/TaskBar Settings")
        $HKUS1521 = "HKEY_USERS\" & _FindReg ("HKEY_USERS", "S-1-5-21")
        _StartMenu ($settings, $HKUS1521)
        _Taskbar ($settings, $HKUS1521)
        IniWrite($settings, "Program_Use_Only", "Set_Start_Menu", "1")
        _Progress_Ref ("ADD")
        $shutdown = "LOGOFF"
    EndIf
    
    _Progress_Ref ("SHOW")
    
;*** SET VISUAL SETTINGS ***
    If IniRead($settings, "Script_Settings", "Set_Visual_Settings", "0") = 1 And IniRead($settings, "Program_Use_Only", "Set_Visual_Settings", "0") = 0 Then
        GUICtrlSetData($current_action, "Setting Visual Settings")
        _VisualSettings ()
        GUICtrlSetData($current_action, "Setting Desktop Settings")
        _Desktop ()
        IniWrite($settings, "Program_Use_Only", "Set_Visual_Settings", "1")
        _Progress_Ref ("ADD")
    EndIf
    
    _Progress_Ref ("SHOW")
    
;*** Set Folder Options ***
    If IniRead($settings, "Script_Settings", "Set_Folder_Options", "0") = 1 And IniRead($settings, "Program_Use_Only", "Set_Folder_Options", "0") = 0 Then
        GUICtrlSetData($current_action, "Setting Folder Options")
        $HKUS1521 = "HKEY_USERS\" & _FindReg ("HKEY_USERS", "S-1-5-21")
        _FolderOptions ($settings, $HKUS1521)
        IniWrite($settings, "Program_Use_Only", "Set_Folder_Options", "1")
        _Progress_Ref ("ADD")
        $shutdown = "LOGOFF"
    EndIf
    
    _Progress_Ref ("SHOW")
    
    If $shutdown <> "" Then _Shutdown ($shutdown, "ADD", $logonuser1, $logonpass1, $scriptdir)
    
;*** MAKE SYSPREP USER - RESTART FOR COPY PROFILE ***
    If IniRead($settings, "Script_Settings", "Copy_Profile", "0") = 1 And IniRead($settings, "Program_Use_Only", "Copy_Profile_Step1", "0") = 0 Then
        GUICtrlSetData($current_action, "Creating Copy Profile User")
        _User ("ADD", $logonuser2, $logonpass2, "Administrators")
        IniWrite($settings, "Program_Use_Only", "Copy_Profile_Step1", "1")
        _Shutdown ("LOGOFF", "ADD", $logonuser2, $logonpass2, $scriptdir)
    EndIf
    
;*** COPY PROFILE ***
    If IniRead($settings, "Script_Settings", "Copy_Profile", "0") = 1 And IniRead($settings, "Program_Use_Only", "Copy_Profile_Step2", "0") = 0 Then
        GUICtrlSetData($current_action, "Copying Profile")
        _Profile ("COPY", $logonuser1)
        IniWrite($settings, "Program_Use_Only", "Copy_Profile_Step2", "1")
        _Shutdown ("LOGOFF", "ADD", $logonuser1, $logonpass1, $scriptdir)
    EndIf
    
;*** Remove sysprep user/profile ***
    If IniRead($settings, "Script_Settings", "Copy_Profile", "0") = 1 And IniRead($settings, "Program_Use_Only", "Copy_Profile_Step3", "0") = 0 Then
        GUICtrlSetData($current_action, "Removing Copy Profile User")
        _Profile ("REMOVE", $logonuser2)
        _User ("REMOVE", $logonuser2, "", "")
        FileDelete(@UserProfileDir & "\" & $logonuser2)
        IniWrite($settings, "Program_Use_Only", "Copy_Profile_Step3", "1")
        _Progress_Ref ("ADD")
    EndIf
    
    _Progress_Ref ("SHOW")
    
;*** WAIT FOR UPDATES/INSTALLS ***
    If IniRead($settings, "Script_Settings", "Wait_Updates", "0") = 1 And IniRead($settings, "Program_Use_Only", "Waited_For_Updates", "0") = 0 Then
        GUICtrlSetData($current_action, "Waiting for Updates")
        _Logon ("ADD", $logonuser1, $logonpass1, $scriptdir)
        MsgBox(0, "Waiting", "Install updates or extra software - HIT OK WHEN DONE - This window will start on next boot if you need to restart")
        _Logon ("REMOVE")
        IniWrite($settings, "Program_Use_Only", "Waited_For_Updates", "1")
        _Progress_Ref ("ADD")
    EndIf
    
    _Progress_Ref ("SHOW")
    
;*** CLEAN SMS ***
    If IniRead($settings, "Script_Settings", "Clean_SMS", "0") = 1 And IniRead($settings, "Program_Use_Only", "Cleaned_SMS", "0") = 0 Then
        GUICtrlSetData($current_action, "Cleaning SMS")
        RunWait($cleansms_exe, @TempDir);Run CleanSMS
        IniWrite($settings, "Program_Use_Only", "Cleaned_SMS", "1")
        _Progress_Ref ("ADD")
    EndIf
    
    _Progress_Ref ("SHOW")
    
;*** REMOVE McAfee GUID ***
    If IniRead($settings, "Script_Settings", "Remove_McAfee_GUID", "0") = 1 And IniRead($settings, "Program_Use_Only", "Removed_McAfee_GUID", "0") = 0 Then
        GUICtrlSetData($current_action, "Removing McAfee GUID")
        RunWait("net stop McAfeeFramework")
        RegDelete("HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Network Associates\ePolicy Orchestrator\Agent", "AgentGUID")
        IniWrite($settings, "Program_Use_Only", "Removed_McAfee_GUID", "1")
        _Progress_Ref ("ADD")
    EndIf
    
    _Progress_Ref ("SHOW")
    
;*** DEFRAGMENT ***
    If IniRead($settings, "Script_Settings", "Defrag", "0") = 1 And IniRead($settings, "Program_Use_Only", "Defraged", "0") = 0 Then
        GUICtrlSetData($current_action, "Defraging Local Disk")
        _Defrag ()
        IniWrite($settings, "Program_Use_Only", "Defraged", "1")
        _Progress_Ref ("ADD")
    EndIf
    
    _Progress_Ref ("SHOW")
    
;*** SYSPREP ***
    If IniRead($settings, "Script_Settings", "Run_Sysprep", "0") = 1 And IniRead($settings, "Program_Use_Only", "Ran_Sysprep", "0") = 0 Then
        GUICtrlSetData($current_action, "Running Sysprep")
        If @OSVersion = "WIN_XP" Then
            DirCopy($workingdir & "sysprep\WinXP\sysprep", "c:\sysprep", 1)
            Run("c:\sysprep\sysprep.exe")
        EndIf
        If @OSVersion = "WIN_2000" Then
            DirCopy("sysprep\Win2K\sysprep", "c:\sysprep", 1)
            Run("c:\sysprep\sysprep.exe")
        EndIf
        $progressref2 = $progressref2 + 1
        _Progress_Ref ("SHOW")
        Sleep(10000)
    EndIf
    
    _Progress_Ref ("SHOW")
    
    ExitLoop
WEnd

GUIDelete()

;Delete settings.ini if done
_DeleteINI ()

Exit
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it worked over vpn from my house, but it doesn't work here on the actual network

i also tried DriveMapAdd, but i cant get that to work with my wsc_domain\ACalcutt login...even though it works to log in though windows

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Well, I haven't been following this, but gotta tell you, I'd never thought of putting an .exe in the error slot of an ini read, and run it if it threw one... I think that's rather ingenius.

But... $workingdir << are both the 'key' .exe and the 'error' .exe actually located there? Or if the 'key' .exe has s different path, does it have the correct one?

Sorry, I don't have the ini to look at to give a better answer, so I'll just speculate.

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Well, I haven't been following this, but gotta tell you, I'd never thought of putting an .exe in the error slot of an ini read, and run it if it threw one... I think that's rather ingenius.

But... $workingdir << are both the 'key' .exe and the 'error' .exe actually located there? Or if the 'key' .exe has s different path, does it have the correct one?

Sorry, I don't have the ini to look at to give a better answer, so I'll just speculate.

If you want to look at the code the whole program is here (with source)

http://www.autoitscript.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=19771

I dont really understand what your asking, basically i have another program that writes the ini file, if they change the default location of the program it writes that location to the [Program_Use_Only] section and program_exe key, then the program that performs the action checks the ini for that key, if it doesn't exist it uses the default(whats in the error slot)...so if a network location is used..or its somehwere else on the drive..it will use that instead of the default location (in the working dir)

Dim $cleansms_exe = IniRead($settings, "Program_Use_Only", "cleansms_exe", $workingdir & "\CleanSMS\AutoRun_cleansms.exe")

---

i know the path is correct...because it is located on \\macross\PrepSys...if i run the program i get the error i showed above...but if before i run the program i manually go start --> run --> enter \\macross\PrepSys --> then put my credentials in. if run the program after i do that the program rruns without any problem

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Did you try running it as:

RunWait(FileGetShortName($cleansns_exe), @TempDir)

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Did you try running it as:

RunWait(FileGetShortName($cleansns_exe), @TempDir)
no, i havent tried that yet.

i will monday when i get to work

it seems to me that it is just not authenticating the way i think it should...mayby i was wrong to put the 2 option in runasset

;Set privlages if needed
If IniRead($settings, "Program_Use_Only", "NetLogon", "0") = 1 Then RunAsSet($netuser, $netdom, $netpass, 2)

it also kind of bothered me that drivemapadd wouldn't work with my wsc_domain\ACalcutt account either

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Good Deal... I'll look for your post monday then... have a safe weekend.

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i just found out it was only working at home because my admin password on my laptop is the same as the admin password on \\macross... i changed my local password and now i get the same error from home...i am going to test your idea now

when i was at work i was testing from a differnet machine, that has a different admin password

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