Eatitup86 Posted November 13, 2014 Share Posted November 13, 2014 Hi there, I recently made a post requesting some assistance with a script that allows players of Binding of Isaac: Rebirth to play the game using the original Binding of Isaac's sound track. This script does use pixel recognition in order to swap songs & such but it does not in any way interact with the game itself aside from finding these patterns. After a pattern is found the appropriate track is called with a run command that chooses the appropriate track's MP3 with Winamp from the original OST's soundtrack folder defined by the user. The script does not include the soundtrack, any version of winamp (free software though), or provide any advantage to the player in the game itself. These players likely already have the sound track from Steam since they enjoy it so much. This is a single player game that only has a competitive scene among streamers on Twitch when they play the Boiler. Player's of the Boiler would never use a script to cheat since there are very strict rules in place that would kick them out of the tournament. Just trying to get a better explanation of the broadness of "game automation" here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators JLogan3o13 Posted November 13, 2014 Moderators Share Posted November 13, 2014 Launching, automation or script interaction with games or game servers, regardless of the game. Not sure how that is confusing? It is basically, zero automation of or interaction with games. "Profanity is the last vestige of the feeble mind. For the man who cannot express himself forcibly through intellect must do so through shock and awe" - Spencer W. Kimball How to get your question answered on this forum! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bert Posted November 13, 2014 Share Posted November 13, 2014 Game automation of any type is not to be discussed. No if, and, or buts. There is no wiggle room, no thinking the rule does not apply to you, no special circumstance, no way around this rule. Zero tolerance means just that. The Vollatran project My blog: http://www.vollysinterestingshit.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eatitup86 Posted November 13, 2014 Author Share Posted November 13, 2014 What caused the shift away from allowing game discussion here? I understand that bots are definitely a problem for games where they create unfair advantages such as MMOs but won't these discussions take place somewhere externally whether they are blocked here or not? I used to post & discuss scripts of this nature often in the past but since the forums have been revamped none of those posts exist any more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bert Posted November 13, 2014 Share Posted November 13, 2014 (edited) What caused the shift away from allowing game discussion here? I understand that bots are definitely a problem for games where they create unfair advantages such as MMOs but won't these discussions take place somewhere externally whether they are blocked here or not? I used to post & discuss scripts of this nature often in the past but since the forums have been revamped none of those posts exist any more. Simple - Cheating sucks. PERIOD. Cheating makes AutoIt itself look bad. Cheating makes the AutoIt community look bad AV companies HATE it and some would flag every AutoIt script all the time when botting was allowed. Companies who use AutoIt in their environments are very concerned about software that is used for bad purposes. They won't use it if it is used in bad ways. The owner of AutoIt does not want it. In my opinion it made HIM look bad. Not cool! Are theses reasons enough for you? Edited November 13, 2014 by Bert The Vollatran project My blog: http://www.vollysinterestingshit.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Melba23 Posted November 13, 2014 Moderators Share Posted November 13, 2014 Eatitup86, What caused the shift away from allowing game discussion here?The behaviour of the those who bot games - unfortunately they appear to be an disagreeable lot in the main and we were no longer prepared to put up with the unpleasantness they brought to the forum. Add to this a desire to see AutoIt shed any reputation as a "botter's language" when it has much more to offer that just that. And so on and so forth...there are plenty of threads discussing this if you search. won't these discussions take place somewhere externallyCertainly - but not on the official AutoIt forum, which is a big difference. As to the question posed in the title - the answer is simple: the forum Moderation team. You admit that the script you posted interacted with the game to detect the specific point reached - hence it fell foul of the "script interaction with games or game servers, regardless of the game" section of the rules as pointed out above and was locked. Sorry of this does not meet with your approval, but those are the rules as set out by the site owner (who is also the author of AutoIt) and enforced by the moderators he has appointed. Is the rule too draconian? Possibly, but it has the major advantage of being clear and precise with no room for mis-interpretation - although you would be surprised (or perhaps not) at the number of botters who claim that they are "special cases". I hope that answers your question - and please excuse me if I do not answer your PM as I would essentially be repeating the above. M23 Any of my own code posted anywhere on the forum is available for use by others without any restriction of any kind Open spoiler to see my UDFs: Spoiler ArrayMultiColSort ---- Sort arrays on multiple columnsChooseFileFolder ---- Single and multiple selections from specified path treeview listingDate_Time_Convert -- Easily convert date/time formats, including the language usedExtMsgBox --------- A highly customisable replacement for MsgBoxGUIExtender -------- Extend and retract multiple sections within a GUIGUIFrame ---------- Subdivide GUIs into many adjustable framesGUIListViewEx ------- Insert, delete, move, drag, sort, edit and colour ListView itemsGUITreeViewEx ------ Check/clear parent and child checkboxes in a TreeViewMarquee ----------- Scrolling tickertape GUIsNoFocusLines ------- Remove the dotted focus lines from buttons, sliders, radios and checkboxesNotify ------------- Small notifications on the edge of the displayScrollbars ----------Automatically sized scrollbars with a single commandStringSize ---------- Automatically size controls to fit textToast -------------- Small GUIs which pop out of the notification area Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eatitup86 Posted November 13, 2014 Author Share Posted November 13, 2014 Understood, I would like to point out that none of the scripts I had posted here interacted directly with a game in the past but they did involve games. An example was a script to map controller keys to keyboard input similar to Joy2Key & XPadder. It is a shame the botting community had to ruin many great opportunities for Autoit . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheSaint Posted November 13, 2014 Share Posted November 13, 2014 Just trying to get a better explanation of the broadness of "game automation" here. Also consider, that even if your request seems like it should be fair and reasonable, any help we give would not just be for your consumption alone. It is seen by all others here. We could reasonably excuse helping a disabled person here, except that would come under the same conditions. Plus even if done secretly or in private, nothing stops them or you from sharing the code with friends etc that are botters. We have to be seen to be doing the right thing overall. Make sure brain is in gear before opening mouth! Remember, what is not said, can be just as important as what is said. Spoiler What is the Secret Key? Life is like a Donut If I put effort into communication, I expect you to read properly & fully, or just not comment. Ignoring those who try to divert conversation with irrelevancies. If I'm intent on insulting you or being rude, I will be obvious, not ambiguous about it. I'm only big and bad, to those who have an over-active imagination. I may have the Artistic Liesense to disagree with you. TheSaint's Toolbox (be advised many downloads are not working due to ISP screwup with my storage) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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