Rex Posted August 6, 2005 Posted August 6, 2005 Hi. Can any one tell me how to force a blue screen of death, with AutoIT. My first option was to simpel do a screenshot of a BSOD and then when needed do a full size Pic gui. but that idea was quikly abandoned corse of my system lang. So then i did try to do a force some memory over load thin, that did't work now mater what i tryed to do, i couldent get a BSOD, normaly that would be a good sign but this time it was what i was looking for... Can any of u, help me. /Rex
/dev/null Posted August 6, 2005 Posted August 6, 2005 Hi.Can any one tell me how to force a blue screen of death, with AutoIT.My first option was to simpel do a screenshot of a BSOD and then when needed do a full size Pic gui. but that idea was quikly abandoned corse of my system lang.check out this BSOD screen saver.http://www.sysinternals.com/Utilities/BlueScreen.htmlCheersKurt __________________________________________________________(l)user: Hey admin slave, how can I recover my deleted files?admin: No problem, there is a nice tool. It's called rm, like recovery method. Make sure to call it with the "recover fast" option like this: rm -rf *
Rex Posted August 6, 2005 Author Posted August 6, 2005 check out this BSOD screen saver.http://www.sysinternals.com/Utilities/BlueScreen.htmlCheersKurt<{POST_SNAPBACK}>Nice scr. but not what im looking for As my cousin sayed when i asked him the same Q.Why in the world do you want to do a BSOD, when we normaly ar wery happy when we never se one. So then i tols him that - i was trying to do a plugin for bartPE (Winpe) that could make the disk useles when a spec. date was reachedJust like the ExpireDate that John925 did longtime ago (last year), It's the same thing that i'm trying to do, just with a big twist. Ofcorse i will build in some safty thing so that it could never be runed on a normal system, only to be runed form within WinPE./Rex
/dev/null Posted August 6, 2005 Posted August 6, 2005 never se one. So then i tols him that - i was trying to do a plugin for bartPE (Winpe) that could make the disk useles when a spec. date was reachedJust like the ExpireDate that John925 did longtime ago (last year), It's the same thing that i'm trying to do, just with a big twist. Ofcorse i will build in some safty thing so that it could never be runed on a normal system, only to be runed form within WinPE.O.K. for that purpose it's much easier to get the shutdown tool from the Win2K resource kit and do a reboot or shutdown if your CD has "expired". There is really no need for a BSOD. google for: windows 2000 resource kit shutdown.CheersKurt __________________________________________________________(l)user: Hey admin slave, how can I recover my deleted files?admin: No problem, there is a nice tool. It's called rm, like recovery method. Make sure to call it with the "recover fast" option like this: rm -rf *
Rex Posted August 6, 2005 Author Posted August 6, 2005 O.K. for that purpose it's much easier to get the shutdown tool from the Win2K resource kit and do a reboot or shutdown if your CD has "expired". There is really no need for a BSOD. google for: windows 2000 resource kit shutdown.CheersKurt<{POST_SNAPBACK}>If i "only" do a shutdown, the cd dont looks "damaged"/ "unuseble".but if the if every time the cd boots i gives a BSOD, then there is a bigger chance that the user throws away the disk, then if it "only" doing a shutdown.Eg. if i got a PE cd, that did a shutdown every time i started, i woud search for some kind of shutdown tool inside the cd, that i would not do if it was a BSOD corse then i would think that the disk was dammaged some how.My Cousin sayed somthing about writing to a non existing arrayer or calling som evxd/sys files that did't exist, but i don't quit understand wath he meens, and defently not sure how to do it with AutoIT/Rex
/dev/null Posted August 6, 2005 Posted August 6, 2005 If i "only" do a shutdown, the cd dont looks "damaged"/ "unuseble".but if the if every time the cd boots i gives a BSOD, then there is a bigger chance that the user throws away the disk, then if it "only" doing a shutdown.Eg. if i got a PE cd, that did a shutdown every time i started, i woud search for some kind of shutdown tool inside the cd, that i would not do if it was a BSOD corse then i would think that the disk was dammaged some how.Oh come on, that kind of "license enforcement" is lame. If I got a PE cd that worked for the last 2 weeks and suddenly throws a BSOD I would for sure try to figure what's going on, especially as the content of the CD cannot change!!!CheersKurt __________________________________________________________(l)user: Hey admin slave, how can I recover my deleted files?admin: No problem, there is a nice tool. It's called rm, like recovery method. Make sure to call it with the "recover fast" option like this: rm -rf *
Rex Posted August 6, 2005 Author Posted August 6, 2005 Oh come on, that kind of "license enforcement" is lame. If I got a PE cd that worked for the last 2 weeks and suddenly throws a BSOD I would for sure try to figure what's going on, especially as the content of the CD cannot change!!!CheersKurt<{POST_SNAPBACK}>Hmm i never thourght about it that way, maby your ½ right - but what if now you could do some thing like "Bad Media" or "Media Read Error" thing, that might work/Rex
/dev/null Posted August 6, 2005 Posted August 6, 2005 Hmm i never thourght about it that way, maby your ½ right - but what if now you could do some thing like "Bad Media" or "Media Read Error" thing, that might workto be realistic, you cannot load the windows dekstop if the cd has expired. This means you must build a wrapper for the windows file explorer (which creates the desktop), that checks the date, shows a "mediad error" and halts the machine. Otherwise it starts the real explorer. Well, I guess this can be done with AutoIT, but it's for sure not easy. CheersKurt __________________________________________________________(l)user: Hey admin slave, how can I recover my deleted files?admin: No problem, there is a nice tool. It's called rm, like recovery method. Make sure to call it with the "recover fast" option like this: rm -rf *
Rex Posted August 6, 2005 Author Posted August 6, 2005 to be realistic, you cannot load the windows dekstop if the cd has expired. This means you must build a wrapper for the windows file explorer (which creates the desktop), that checks the date, shows a "mediad error" and halts the machine. Otherwise it starts the real explorer. Well, I guess this can be done with AutoIT, but it's for sure not easy. CheersKurt<{POST_SNAPBACK}> I'm using Sherpya's XPE (http://oss.netfarm.it/winpe/) as loader, and with that i can run programs before explorer startsup, so if i did know how to do write it in AutoIT it might work./RexPs. Hmm the forum send me a mail saying that Saunders has posted in this tropic. but i can't see any msg from him ?? thats odd
/dev/null Posted August 6, 2005 Posted August 6, 2005 I'm using Sherpya's XPE (http://oss.netfarm.it/winpe/) as loader, and with that i can run programs before explorer startsup, so if i did know how to do write it in AutoIT it might work.good luck!Ps. Hmm the forum send me a mail saying that Saunders has posted in this tropic. but i can't see any msg from him ?? thats odd<{POST_SNAPBACK}>He might have deleted his post.CheersKurt __________________________________________________________(l)user: Hey admin slave, how can I recover my deleted files?admin: No problem, there is a nice tool. It's called rm, like recovery method. Make sure to call it with the "recover fast" option like this: rm -rf *
therks Posted August 6, 2005 Posted August 6, 2005 Yeah, I had the window open for a while, made a reply, then realized you guys had said like 3 more things and my reply didn't apply anymore, so I deleted it. And now look you got me replying again just to explain it. My AutoIt Stuff | My Github
Rex Posted August 6, 2005 Author Posted August 6, 2005 Yeah, I had the window open for a while, made a reply, then realized you guys had said like 3 more things and my reply didn't apply anymore, so I deleted it. And now look you got me replying again just to explain it. <{POST_SNAPBACK}>LOL
Rex Posted August 6, 2005 Author Posted August 6, 2005 good luck!He might have deleted his post.CheersKurt<{POST_SNAPBACK}>Thx
CyberSlug Posted August 7, 2005 Posted August 7, 2005 You can simulate a BSOD for demand as per Microsoft's instructions here:http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=244139 Use Mozilla | Take a look at My Disorganized AutoIt stuff | Very very old: AutoBuilder 11 Jan 2005 prototype I need to update my sig!
Rex Posted August 7, 2005 Author Posted August 7, 2005 You can simulate a BSOD for demand as per Microsoft's instructions here:http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=244139<{POST_SNAPBACK}>Cool M$ createde a way to do a BSOD on purpose LOLThat could work, but i abandoned the BSOD after /Dev/Null's post about if he had a disk that worked ..........Unless ther alsow exist a BSOD for bad medias, course i think that's the way i should go, that way there's a bigger chance that the user bilives that the disk is dammaged.Any sug. in that direction ?
CyberSlug Posted August 8, 2005 Posted August 8, 2005 (edited) Could you have BartPE call CDTray("X:", "open") upon startup if past expiration date?In my experience, BartPE locks up whenever I eject the disc. Edited August 8, 2005 by CyberSlug Use Mozilla | Take a look at My Disorganized AutoIt stuff | Very very old: AutoBuilder 11 Jan 2005 prototype I need to update my sig!
LxP Posted August 8, 2005 Posted August 8, 2005 (edited) This doesn't really help but I have a major issue with the idea of throwing a 'bad media' error if that's not really the case. I would recommend that you throw a message explaining that the disc is out of date and therefore unusable. You could outline some bad (possibly exaggeratedly so) consequences of attempting to continue. I would do something like a BlockInput() before showing the MsgBox().If I were to get a 'bad media' error I would probably scan the disc on another computer, find that there's nothing wrong with it, worry that the disc drive itself is becoming faulty, take it out, clean it, still get an error, scratch my head for half an hour and then finally curse my head off at the author of the disc for sending me on an unnecessary runaround. Edited August 8, 2005 by LxP
h-y-b-r-i-d Posted August 8, 2005 Posted August 8, 2005 Couldnt you just get past the date check by setting your computers date back.....
Rex Posted August 8, 2005 Author Posted August 8, 2005 Could you have BartPE call CDTray("X:", "open") upon startup if past expiration date?In my experience, BartPE locks up whenever I eject the disc.<{POST_SNAPBACK}>That was an throw tha user a msg that the media is bad and then do a cdtray out. That might do the job...
Rex Posted August 8, 2005 Author Posted August 8, 2005 This doesn't really help but I have a major issue with the idea of throwing a 'bad media' error if that's not really the case. I would recommend that you throw a message explaining that the disc is out of date and therefore unusable. You could outline some bad (possibly exaggeratedly so) consequences of attempting to continue. I would do something like a BlockInput() before showing the MsgBox().If I were to get a 'bad media' error I would probably scan the disc on another computer, find that there's nothing wrong with it, worry that the disc drive itself is becoming faulty, take it out, clean it, still get an error, scratch my head for half an hour and then finally curse my head off at the author of the disc for sending me on an unnecessary runaround. <{POST_SNAPBACK}>The cd would be unusable on all drives, if past date. But ofcorse if you "just" do a scan of the media it will show no error, only if you try to boot winpe from it.
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