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Wiki FAQ Improvement Suggestion

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I was browsing the FAQ when I came across this. Now I must say, this is some nice jury-rigging, however you shouldn't be pinging localhost and instead ping an address that does not exist such as 1.3.3.7 or 1.1.1.1. For example doing:

ping 1.3.3.7 -n 1 -w (delay here * 1000) -l 0 > nul

is a more precise delay than

ping -n (delay here) 127.0.0.1 > nul

as well as using less resources than the line above.

I'm actually interested in this, and I'll probably find an even better way in a few days (I've already got a lot of ideas)


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Can I have sauce on that?

We're currently out.


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We're currently out.

sauce.

Anyway, performance is a non-issue. If anyone is affected by ping to localhost, then I suggest that they stop running Windows on their PIC1650.

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#5 ·  Posted (edited)

I know what sauce is. I was making a joke, and I did the performance testing myself.

Anyway points of my post:

1. We should replace 127.0.0.1 with an invalid IP You disproved

2. We should make the delay more precise by adding "-n 1 -w (delay in milliseconds) -l 0"

Edited by rcmaehl

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We could make the delay more precise, but why would we .. Who has any requirement that their executable be deleted in exactly X milliseconds?

I hate to be the one to shoot this down, but if you feel it's really that big of a deal, maybe you can write an example and do some comparisons.

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I highly doubt anyone's going to care if a file is deleted in 50ms or 1000ms of running the _SelfDelete function, unless you can provide a plausible reason of why someone would want to. If you have an improvement the please post it to the Examples section, it's what I've done in the past with that function.


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I highly doubt anyone's going to care if a file is deleted in 50ms or 1000ms of running the _SelfDelete function, unless you can provide a plausible reason of why someone would want to. If you have an improvement the please post it to the Examples section, it's what I've done in the past with that function.

A time limited trial program (trial only works for like 30 minutes).


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A time limited trial program (trial only works for like 30 minutes).

That's a shit reason.

A limited trial is designed for user interaction to be limited, not limiting the time it takes for code to execute.

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I agree with James, I've personally never known a time trial to require such precision before.


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Personally if id downloaded some software and it was a 30 min trial id be writing a stern mail to the developer about how much of a cheapskate dick he was not giving the consumer ample time to evaluate his product etc etc

I think opinion is against you on this one, it doesn't stop you developing it of course but expect people not to be happy.

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#12 ·  Posted (edited)

if i found out that it had a 30 minute trial period, and i would, it wouldn't get downloaded and the download site would get blocked. end of story.

and even at that; the kind of precision you are talking about is never required in a timer situation. google for the average time it takes a person to blink. if i'm going to miss an event because i blinked then it's being far more precise than i will ever need or appreciate.

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#13 ·  Posted (edited)

Not that I really want to get involved, but perhaps he means to trial it for 30 minutes at a time. There are plenty of apps, typically audio recording or processing apps, that will only record time limited clips or insert audio watermarks during trial periods.

Skimmed the content of this too quickly before replying.

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In which case, the self deleter doesn't make sense.

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#15 ·  Posted (edited)

Then why wpuld the program delete itself on completion?

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#16 ·  Posted (edited)

Then why would the program delete itself on completion?

The program would delete itself on completion because unlike some software, if I make a time limited program, I won't have it just sitting on a person's computer taking up space and serving no purpose. Instead, I'd have the script open up the purchasing information page and then delete itself. Secondly, the self-deleting program is generally used with AutoIt programs within AutoIt Programs (using FileInstall()).

Edited by rcmaehl

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No, Valik was referring to the "only run for 30 minutes at a time" example.

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The program would delete itself on completion because unlike some software, if I make a time limited program, I won't have it just sitting on a person's computer taking up space and serving no purpose. Instead, I'd have the script open up the purchasing information page and then delete itself. Secondly, the self-deleting program is generally used with AutoIt programs within AutoIt Programs (using FileInstall()).

You are incredibly stupid and your ideas are appalling.
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#20 ·  Posted (edited)

I think it's suffice to say rcmaehl that you haven't provided a good enough example. If you did provide a 'plausible' example that required deletion to the nearest millisecond then you wouldn't be using _SelfDelete to achieve this.

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